you mean we actually agree?

Thanks Sovpres, thanks.

I was actually coming on here this morning to apologise for what I said yesterday, had a long crap night at work and took this thread the way I always do, the wrong way.

Sorry Mike Dave, Smurf and anyone else I offended, shouldn't have been aimed at you.

I'm like everyone else that just see's five more cars being scrapped a bleedin waste, especially when you support four of them and love the fifth car equally!!!

as for the equal rule thingy i just lost track of what i meant, my oppinion dosent really matter on it any way!!!

No need to appologise Spikey

Thought we often agreed Mike, and on the odd occasion when we don't you are obviously talking out of your rce

Yeah no worries matey, its not a argument between us all just a disscusion. chill mate everythings cool.I only picked up on the 'all' word, i dont mean now't by it I was just adding my two pence worth.
Thanks anyhow but as Mike said not needed.

Fair point son fair point!How many of those races were won by bill?(in my opinion the best tilter driver by far)Still cant see a world on there tho,or european!

there is plenty of time yet!!!

still think skidders is a tit tho

your only talkin on a particular model of car a battenbuilt has won every major goin and yep bill not just the best battenbuilt but next to speaky he is the best f2 pilot out there (his cv proves better than the current best) and last season cl final proved so, battenbuilts were ###### at brum so wot 1 bad meetin makes them useless, werent so crap at arena for the world last year or the qr this year. bit pissed of how some of you muppets accuse him of manipulating the sport because of his position as chairman when you really havent got a clue, as said before lets see how this sport progresses when he steps down from his position as chairman

car'nt be that much of an advantage the fish and bumble both dropped to blue this season ( this isnt a dig just a fact ) yeah tims goin well but he's doin a lot of meetings and always has done so with that much track time over the years you'd hope to be up neer the top weather you're car was on the p**s or not and he was up there before as was bill . yeah they might be stretching the rules a bit but isnt everyone where they can ? dont expect when they wrote the rule book they expected people to cover half the car in 6mm plate which is more of an advantage than a tillter.if bill did adjust the rules to suit the cars he builds ( im not sayying he did just think it was taken out coz it wasnt right ) wouldnt any off us try it if we on the board and we'd built a car different from the norm. i do think it was wrong how the rce cars were banned with no notice sean as 12 yrs ago lusky along with others ran a bird cage axle and a wide track front end and capri axle before he joined randell so they wernt doing anything new they didnt reinvent the wheel just refined it,which is all any of the car builders are doin.so the best idea is to limit the inside weight same as hotrods works for them and if you carnt have scales at every track random checks would sort it out, so let'em keep the tillters,a rule that should be altered is the 10mm axle offset its not a big enough tolarence in a contact sport or enough to make a difference to the handling. just my thoughts ,oh yeah whos got the 5th tillter,would be good to see bill back out there in any car

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At the end of the day it comes down to how good a driver you are, don't it. Yes a good car makes you look better, but the real difference comes down to how much talent you have. Billy at the end of the day has real talent. Yes he has been innovative in my opinion, and most have followed his lead. I personally this year, have really missed Bill racing.

indeed there is,and with the world on an unsymetrical track this year its a distinct posibility!
i know batten cars have won it all at some point or another,and for me the tilters are cracking pieces of engineering, and to my mind legal,i havnt put a tape on 1 but i was allways under the impression it was cab/chassis rails had to be symetrical,and they look it to me,but if the powers that be want them gone,game over im affraid(ask mr rce,another very clever boke!)on the plus side,i cant afford to race with you boys and i recon rts would let me use 1 there so before u cut them up,gis a call,i will pay 150 a ton scrap for um!

Bills a driver,speakys stye was more about hanging cars off of fences as i remember!o and the central final on a proper shaped track last year was probably one of the best races i have seen in recent years.Seems my attempt to pull spikeys chain as got a bit out of hand now
Dont suppose you fancy telling me what % inside weight you get with that tilty car do you Mr farrell,be nice to know if its that big a difference?

well judging by wot you would pay a ton joey id say about 150 quid of inside weight less than an rce on my car but thats just my car